Mohammed HijabThe kind of collective punishment that Andrew Gold believes in is a worse type of collective punishment because it includes killing people.
Andrew GoldDo you think the collective punishment on Palestine is justified?
Mohammed HijabNo, not really. But it's a war. That's war, unfortunately.
Andrew GoldYes, but it is collective punishment though, isn't it?
Mohammed HijabYour people are collectively punishing people right now. But me suggesting it in the UK is all of a sudden...
Andrew GoldIt's war with a different nation and rules. Yeah, of course it does. It's not a fair war at all.
Mohammed HijabBombing children.
Andrew GoldUnfortunately, that, you know, that that's happened and that's Hamas's fault for putting them in the way of the bombs. What do you do with that?
Mohammed HijabAndrew Gold is a worse type of racist than Steven Law. Steven Law is actually way more coherent. At least he's got a coherent position. At least he's kind of like non-discriminatory with his racism. He treats the Muslim the same as the Jew, the same as the black, the same as the Pakistani. His racism is actually more coherent. He just has a position which is obviously a flawed one, and we can discuss that at a later time.
Mohammed HijabBut the point is that I find it incredulous that somebody who is a Zionist is arguing against racism. If someone who is a Zionist is making these points, okay, is making these anti-immigration points and is arguing against ethnonationalism and all these kind of things, then it should be pointed out that they believe it in one place and reject it in another.