The Son's Generation
Mohammed HijabMy question, boy, is the following, okay?
Opponent[laughter]
Mohammed HijabBoy, if it's true that the Father begets the Son, you said that, right?
OpponentYeah, I did. Does that mean that the Son is generated?
Mohammed HijabYes, he is generated eternally from the Father.
OpponentOkay, beautiful. So, if he's generated, that means he's caused, right? Uh yes, no, so when we're saying... Let me... He is... Yeah, no, huh? What is it? He's generated. Let me, let me explain. Let me explain, all right? Got you. So, when we say that the Son is begotten or generated or caused by the Father, this is not something that happens in time, but this is eternal generation, an eternal begetting. He's being perpetually caused, is he? Is he being perpetually caused, is he?
Mohammed HijabHe's, he's eternally generated. Aha, so generated means he's perpetually caused, is he? Sure. What? So, caused. Okay, so he's a contingent existence. He's not a necessary existence. He's contingent. He's a dependent being, is he? Is your God dependent? No, no, he's not...
OpponentNo, let me, let me answer this now. He's not a dependent being. To be, to be a dependent being means that you are dependent or contingent on another being outside of yourself. The Son shares the same essence, is the same being as the Father. And so, therefore, the Father eternally causing and generating the Son is not a demonstrates that he's actually an independent being because his essence isn't sourced in any other essence. But you just said he's, he, you just said he's generated by the Father. That's what you just said. He's caused by the...
Mohammed HijabHe shares the same essence as the Father. So, now you admit, you admit that he's generated by the Father. Eternally, yes. Oh, he's eternally... It makes it even worse because he's caused, being caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused and caused. Say it again, sorry.
OpponentCan you be caused and uncaused at the same time? Depends... Yeah, it depends on what you mean. So, you can be, you can be caused...
Mohammed Hijab[screaming]