Substitution Theory

Mohammed HijabYou say voluntarily, you go to the court and you say, "Excuse me, I'm going to take my son's punishment on my behalf." On my behalf.

OpponentYeah, so I'm going to go to prison, not my son. He can go out. I'm going to be in the prison.

Mohammed HijabOkay, that would depend on the judge if he wants to accept that or not. No, yeah, so would that be justice being prevailed?

OpponentNo, no, no. I've got... Okay, that would that not fulfill the justice of the killing the person? No, no, no. That depends on the... That depends on the judge and the person who did that.

Mohammed HijabHuh? If that person, listen to me. Listen to me. What you just gave an example, I told you if I if if your son has killed somebody and the judge said, "Now, you're you're..." That's a right hearing again. Let me tell you why.

Opponent[laughter]

Mohammed HijabThat's a right hearing. Okay, why are you laughing? Because now now you've been caught out.

OpponentNo. Why are you using courtroom examples when you can't take it to its logical conclusion?